Is it time for a Hawaii lottery? What about legal card rooms?

Discussion in 'FH Lounge' started by Grumpy, Mar 3, 2017.

  1. Grumpy

    Grumpy Administrator

    Mayor Caldwell wants to raise property taxes, charge for trash pickup, raise gas and weight taxes. Our legislature wants to raise state gas and weight taxes, too. The HSTA wants to raise taxes on certain properties to raise money for education. Blah, blah, blah. They all want more money by taking it out of our pockets.

    Why not allow a lottery? No one is forced to buy tickets. Those who want to take a chance can do so at their own volition. That money can then go to fund education.

    What about some card rooms? The money generated can go towards state and county coffers. Those who want to play poker, blackjack and baccarat are free to do so, and it will benefit our state.

    The medical marijuana industry will also generate millions of tax dollars for each county and our state.

    The holy rollers will add their usual $0.02 and say lotteries and legalizing gambling will take money from those who cannot afford it. That would be completely up to them. If they want to take a gamble on a lottery ticket, don't complain about not having money for rent or food. If not, tough shit.
  2. NickT

    NickT Member

    I hate the idea of raising taxes across the board. They are a necessary infringement of freedom to pay for stuff, but there is a point where it is too much.

    That said, I just looked it up and Hawaii is pretty high up in state debt.

    I think Hawaii should start with an optional way to generate revenue like the lottery, slot machines, or marijuana before imposing tax hikes across the board for everyone. Tax cigs and soda.
    Don't want to pay more taxes? Simple, don't gamble/smoke cigs/drink soda

    I don't think card rooms would be a good idea. Imagine all the fraud and corruption that would happen.
  3. Grumpy

    Grumpy Administrator

    That's the same argument HPD has had whenever legalized gambling bills come about. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
  4. BlueHawaii2003HD

    BlueHawaii2003HD New Member

    Hey we're on fox news!
  5. Grumpy

    Grumpy Administrator

  6. ce3jay

    ce3jay New Member

    Wasn't that the segment about the rail? Saw something like that on FB not to long ago.
  7. 808CVPI

    808CVPI Administrator Staff Member

    But we do have a lot of problems with our gamerooms though. We get a lot of robberies and strong arm security territory issues.
  8. Grumpy

    Grumpy Administrator

    That's because it is illegal here. That's pretty much what happened this morning on Cummins Street. Shooting there on Xmas Eve, today, shooting on Poha Lane a few months ago all gambling related. If they legalize it, regulations come into play along with real security. There's 2, maybe 3 gambling houses within that block.
  9. NickT

    NickT Member

    Why card rooms though? Why not just have strictly slot machines like Vegas airport? That's the "safest" way to introduce gambling to Hawaii.
  10. Grumpy

    Grumpy Administrator

    Slot machines are good, but I don't think Hawaii is set for dealing with them. There are lots of reporting requirements when dealing with slots, documentation and certifications needed for servicing the machines, or even pulling them out of service.

    Easiest for Hawaii is a lottery.
  11. NickT

    NickT Member

    Only thing I don't like about a lottery is that it gives the government more money to waste.

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