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Old Jun 29, 09, 06:18 AM   #11
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Old Jun 29, 09, 12:33 PM   #12
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bah, evict yourself out of the house. The excuse about "cost of living too high in hawaii" is a cop-out and one of the biggest reasons IMO that people in hawaii do not succeed. They use their parents as a crutch, and never learn to stand on their own two feet.

Yeah renting sucks balls, but you learn useful life skills that you wouldn't living with mommy and daddy. You'd learn what it takes to survive "in the real world", and what you need to do to be successful in the financial sense. I see too many 30-something year old peeps living with their parents, basically waiting for them to croak to inherit the house. Pathetic IMO.

Note: If you still go school, then you have an excuse.
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Old Jun 29, 09, 12:48 PM   #13
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bah, evict yourself out of the house. The excuse about "cost of living too high in hawaii" is a cop-out and one of the biggest reasons IMO that people in hawaii do not succeed. They use their parents as a crutch, and never learn to stand on their own two feet.

Yeah renting sucks balls, but you learn useful life skills that you wouldn't living with mommy and daddy. You'd learn what it takes to survive "in the real world", and what you need to do to be successful in the financial sense. I see too many 30-something year old peeps living with their parents, basically waiting for them to croak to inherit the house. Pathetic IMO.

Note: If you still go school, then you have an excuse.

This is true, but at the same time you gotta be real. It's about doing what makes sense. Data and stats don't lie, people can barely survive a lone, and it will eat your youth. Don't tell me all the fin, acct, hr majors along w/ the thousands of BS majors will end up finding any job to even suffice or sustain poverty lifestyle. lol

Having support there and help is great, but don't take it for granted. Our society is messed up though.

I don't get DW's case. He's paying marney to his folks, but he has to face eviction. Basically going through all the trouble to pocket money legally for his Dad and bring stress to himself ?

Filipino homes are multi family for a reason and there's a reason why their home is so nice too.

My advice is, your youth are your greatest years of adventure and solidifying who and what you want to be. If you take it for granted, you'll put it to waste. What I feel bad is when I talk to tellers whom are fresh grads, 20s and even 50-60 year old tellers. I don't wanna be @ that age, working a slave job. But they have no choice..
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Old Jun 29, 09, 12:59 PM   #14
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Try talk to people's parents or grandparents and see what they needed to do to survive. It's no easier or harder today. I think current generations have gone soft, probably because the parents dont want them to suffer the same way they did. But IMO they really aren't doing their kids a favor. Regarding the tellers (which is the mcdonalds job of the finance industry), you probably wouldn't have the motivation to better yourself either..... if you had all your living costs handed to you on a silver platter.

Regarding fun, how fun can living with your parents be? IONO about your parents, but mine are annoying as ****. When I moved out, I used to live with multiple room mates (decrease cost of rent), eating packs of saimin, dollar whoppers, drinking water, and musclemilk bars (for vitamins/minerals) and look for cheap entertainment. I can honestly say that those were some of the best years of my life. I can afford a lot more nowadays, but it really isn't the same with additional responsibilities & work..
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Old Jun 29, 09, 03:45 PM   #15
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Try talk to people's parents or grandparents and see what they needed to do to survive. It's no easier or harder today. I think current generations have gone soft, probably because the parents dont want them to suffer the same way they did. But IMO they really aren't doing their kids a favor. Regarding the tellers (which is the mcdonalds job of the finance industry), you probably wouldn't have the motivation to better yourself either..... if you had all your living costs handed to you on a silver platter.

Regarding fun, how fun can living with your parents be? IONO about your parents, but mine are annoying as ****. When I moved out, I used to live with multiple room mates (decrease cost of rent), eating packs of saimin, dollar whoppers, drinking water, and musclemilk bars (for vitamins/minerals) and look for cheap entertainment. I can honestly say that those were some of the best years of my life. I can afford a lot more nowadays, but it really isn't the same with additional responsibilities & work..
Are you being suggestive that, that's the route 'everyone' should go towards? I feel sad about Tellers not because they dont' strive, but because they are 'caught' w/ life. They have to make ends meet, and they simply have no time, opportunity and have accepted things. People laugh at this, but this is 'reality'.

Some make it, some don't. Some are fortunate enough, some aren't. This is the constant battle in social wealth class. With generation battles, with immigrants.
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Old Jun 29, 09, 03:54 PM   #16
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probably not everyone. Some people would have more trouble adapting & surviving. I know people who moved out and "made it", and I know others that couldn't handle it, and moved back in with the 'rents. Everyone's situation is different, and luck & economic conditions do play a role in how successful you are on your own. Still, I think it's important to get out from under your parents' wings sometime in your 20s.

But that's just my opinion, which tend to be "black sheepish". I swing left when everyone is leaning right, and vice versa.
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Old Jun 29, 09, 04:30 PM   #17
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at the end of the day the most important thing is that the family is close and everyone stays safe. living at home is a give and take situation. sometimes the folks need help and the kids can offer a hand with these tasks in trade for being allowed to stay there. many an extended family are perfectly happy. i tell my kids "i dont care if and when you plan to move out, all i ask is that you have a good heart, a loving compassionate spirit and always be honest." cant go wrong with that.
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18 is move out time - at least it was at my house

you can get a dorm and go to school (pay for it yourself) or you can get a ride to the recruiters office. I moved out at 18 - my older brother joined the army.

We are both doing very well and the kick in the a$$ my dad gave us is the whole reson why. easy to stay motivated when you're hungry.

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Old Jun 29, 09, 11:57 PM   #19
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This is true, but at the same time you gotta be real. It's about doing what makes sense. Data and stats don't lie, people can barely survive a lone, and it will eat your youth. Don't tell me all the fin, acct, hr majors along w/ the thousands of BS majors will end up finding any job to even suffice or sustain poverty lifestyle. lol
i live on my own just fine. its not that hard. plenty of people do it on their own without super high paying jobs.

if ur good at 4th grade math (not just addition and subtraction, but also fractions and sometimes decimals)... you can figure out how to make it work.


True... you wont be living in a fancy house in one of Hawaiis caucasion neighborhoods, or driving as nice of a car as you would if you lived at home, but thats the real world. Making $30k a year and driivng a G35 while "ballin" at lvl 4... is not the real world. Its candyland fantasyland... and it only impresses other people who are completely out of touch with reality.
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Old Jun 30, 09, 07:15 AM   #20
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When i got evicted i stayed 2 months after i was supposed to be out. Neva have electric so wasnt that fun. Ran a plug from next door. I was supposed to be out on the 30th then went to court on the following 5th, then the judge granted 45 days to physically vacate, then stayed till we returned to court for compliance. Never have hot shower like 2 months.
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